I got this same story from my dad. I also promptly squashed it as the turd it is. It's oh so easy to point out the flaws and self-adulation in this story.
Rex
Rex B13
JoinedPosts by Rex B13
-
21
The bros. at ground 0
by tdogg infrom wol:.
"someone from gc sent this e-mail to me.
it is a very nice and encouraging experience.. hi everyone, .
-
-
Rex B13
-
12
Teaching the Bible
by Rex B13 inhi gang,.
let me qualify this post before my usual detractors have a chance to blast me.
i already know that the great majority here do not believe in the one, true god.
-
-
Rex B13
Good cheerleading, Jdubla. I am beginning to see the extent that you follow the pack and forget to think for yourself.
Hi Julie,
I am thrilled just to have the attention of such a confident and self-assured woman!Bible stories are read to toddlers at the level their own minds are able to fathom. By the time a child reaches kindergarten age they know as much about scripture as many adults. We don't have any books that are as graphic as the old 'Paradise' book, if that is what you are asking. Detailed analysis of various passages would be useless until they are able to understand context.
>How old does a child have to be to be kept in line with fear? Is it a never-to-young-to-start sort of mindset or more of a let's-not-damage-their-tender-minds-yet view?
I know the story of Joshua and his people slaughtering others was way too much for my own daughter at about age 8 so that's why I ask.As a New Testament church, we emphasize salvation and the work done on the cross by Christ. The whole key is to teach at the level of understanding. Some children are ready for this type of study, some are not. Naturally, we would not want to instil fear in children, in anyone really. Even 'fearing God' is in relation to 'respect' for the creator and His own awesome abilities. Those who are drawn to the Father are not drawn out of self-preservation, they are drawn out of love for Christ in his grace toward us.
BTW, those who died as the result of judgement by God were warned repeatedly and their deaths, (as well as the innocents deaths) are of their own responsibility for disobedience to God.
Fleeing to God in times of trouble is our shelter. Knowing that God is in ultimate control of all events (sovereignty) reassures us that all will work toward the good in the end.
Could you yourself understand this at 8, 12, 18 or even 38?Let me go off on a tangent:
I came across a new approach to prophetic events as taught by David Chilton. Some of his message is part dominion theology: this teaches that the church will gradually convert the whole world without violence and that Jesus return will be the end result of this conversion. It may take thousands of years yet the results will be that God Himself will save humanity rather than have to destroy the majority who have sided with evil. According to Chilton, Revelation is a book that was really fullfilled during the Roman times. Either way, armageddon is not for the purpose of killing off 'those who do not believe as we do'. It's likened to a policeman gunning down thugs who are threatening innocents, and really, is that so bad? Imagine a whole world threatened by the likes of Hitler and his cronies; would you blame God for blasting them?
Context, context, context. ;-)
Rex -
12
Teaching the Bible
by Rex B13 inhi gang,.
let me qualify this post before my usual detractors have a chance to blast me.
i already know that the great majority here do not believe in the one, true god.
-
-
Rex B13
>why would we ('christians') need to have the Bible taught to us or teach the Bible to other 'christians' at all?
In answer, why do you advocate against 'gathering together' for a common cause? Are all Christians at the same level of understanding? Why indeed would the Holy Spirit NOT use more mature Christians to disciple new Christians?
Shelby, not everyone has the direct conduit to God that you claim to have.
Rex -
12
Teaching the Bible
by Rex B13 inhi gang,.
let me qualify this post before my usual detractors have a chance to blast me.
i already know that the great majority here do not believe in the one, true god.
-
-
Rex B13
Hi Gang,
Let me qualify this post before my usual detractors have a chance to blast me. I already know that the great majority here do not believe in the one, true God. So be it, this is simply information on actually teaching the Bible to Christians and others.
We do a 'mission trip' every summer and we have a mission in a poor neighborhood in our area. I've been honored to preach there as well as at our main church.
People wear what they want. No one is turned away, in fact, we often go out in tract work the day of an event to bring more people in. We had a Vacation Bible school this summer that included a multi-media show. Kids have their own activities during sermons. No screaming kids and butt whippings in the bathroom.
What we have going right now:
We run two services Sunday A.M. with Sunday school sandwiched in between. Each service has worship & praise, and a sermon worked up by our pastor done twice.
Various talented singers and musicians perform during services. No half-hearted singing that I used to cringe through in the WTS.
Sunday school teaches directly out of the Bible and on a book by book with commentaries and guides. We are free to use any other commentaries, any Bible and the teachers do their own research. (I teach adult classes and administrate as adult director.)
Sunday evening we have discipleship training in courses designed to improve our charity and service to others.
We also have a university level Bible word study course using Strong's concordance and Vine's hebrew/aramic/greek dictionary. About one third of the church members are taking these courses.
Sunday evening winds up with the Bible study/youth group, which are usually attended by about half the congo.
Wednesday night is the youth group and a Bible study for the parents bringing kids. We have sleepovers and activities for the various age groups. Church socials.So why am I telling you this? I can do five hours of this stuff a week, standing on my head. It is interesting and it is challenging. When people learn what the Bible says and how to spot false interpreting they don't fall for cults. Christian freedom exists, no G.B. sending us outlines or word for word talks. A Southern Baptist church can range in size from a dozen to 25,000 (I think this is the largest membership, Jacksonville, Atlanta, Memphis; pastored by Jerry Vines, Charles Stanley and Adrian Rogers respectively).
Fred Luter (of New Orleans) is probably going to be our next President of the convention, he's a african-american brother.
Our congo can leave the convention at any time with a majority vote. We can fire a pastor with a majority vote. We don't sit on our hands expecting him to do all of the evangelism, that'w why training disciples is so important.
Real Christianity. Matthew 28.18-20 tells the tale and why it's done........Rex
-
12
Following Threads where I have posted
by SEAKEN2001 ini just figured out today how to bypass the login sequences every time i reply to a thread.
but i am still miffed that i cannot follow the threads i have posted in without hunting through all the topics, some of which i may have no interest in.
is there a way on this board to track my own posts?
-
-
Rex B13
Hey Marilyn,
Good advice except you get a e-mail every time anyone posts to the thread (and not just to your post) and that can be a mess to sort through too! Done it, don't work for me.
Rex -
-
-
Rex B13
Amen. But here is a correct rendering:
NIV 2 Corinthians 12:9 But he said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness." Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ's power may rest on me.
Context, context, context.Rex
-
12
The Dumb and Dumber Organization
by metatron inwhen does the 'dumbth' in this organization hit bottom?.
anybody remember when questions were read aloud before the.
paragraph, during the watchtower study?.
-
-
Rex B13
Farkel E Neuuman,
I just loved the comments of the ones who answered the questions, word for word, with exactly what the paragraph said. My favorite thing (near the end) was sneaking in a tough question for the WT conductor that 'I had been asked by a householder in service'.
One time this prompted three elders to answer the question in quick succession with smoke and mirrors. I loved seeing them squirm and the looks that I got.
Hey, at least it made a small part of the study interesting, eh?
Rex -
44
Bin Laden Innocent?
by dubla inthere have been several threads recently where individuals have spoken out against the united states for their actions against afghanistan.
there are some people on this forum who continue to express the belief that bin laden has not had a fair trial up to this point, and these same people have insinuated that perhaps the u.s. doesnt have enough proof against him and his network to take forceful military action.
for any still unclear on this, please click here >>> http://www.cnn.com/2001/world/asiapcf/central/10/10/gen.alqaeda.video/index.html.
-
-
Rex B13
Hi Jdubla,
I don't care if you (think) you can easily deal with my arguments. The fact that you haven't done so does not prove you wrong, per se, but it does lower your opinion to that of an unproven assertion.
You asked, I delivered, now you have no gripe with me.
As far as Alan goes, we always get into an insult match and that is a waste of time.
Rex -
44
Bin Laden Innocent?
by dubla inthere have been several threads recently where individuals have spoken out against the united states for their actions against afghanistan.
there are some people on this forum who continue to express the belief that bin laden has not had a fair trial up to this point, and these same people have insinuated that perhaps the u.s. doesnt have enough proof against him and his network to take forceful military action.
for any still unclear on this, please click here >>> http://www.cnn.com/2001/world/asiapcf/central/10/10/gen.alqaeda.video/index.html.
-
-
Rex B13
Hi Al,
Concerning the above post: I was answering a post in another thread where JDUBLA said your arguments were 'rock solid'. He has been avoiding answering me and I decided to respond here when he started this thread. I do feel flattered that you look for my posts and ignore the one who started the thread. BTW, your 'rock solid reasoning' (Jdubla's words) looks a little like sandstone after my response.
Cheers,
Rex -
17
Why Religious People Should Not Be Allowed Power!
by Kent inthese images is from results of religious leaders!
there should be a law against religious people being in any position with more power than windowcleaning!.
there is lots of others at http://rawasongs.fancymarketing.net/gallery.html.
-
-
Rex B13
How long are you going to ignore the facts about Christians, who are and who aren't? Hitler was a Catholic and professed Christianity at one point in his life. He obviously did not live a Christian life, therefore he was NOT a Christian.
When are you going to quit hating everything you don't understand?
Rex